Lets Get Retorted In Here

jeff jonesWith the release of the January 2014 ban list, Dragon Rulers have finally been dethroned as the best deck in contention. The limiting of Blaster, Redox, Tempest, Tidal and [ccProd]Sacred Sword of Seven Stars[/ccProd] along with the ban of [ccProd]Sixth Sense[/ccProd] and Return have essentially made all versions of the deck moot, and I’m sure most players are glad to move on from a format dominated by just Dragon Rulers and… decks that beat Dragon Rulers. I’m all for a diverse format and that is definitely what we are looking at. Fire Formation – Tenki is now unlimited and you bet that people will start sleeving up their Fire Fist, Constellar, and Bujin decks for gameplay. Other decks that will be played pretty much range from anything from Mermails to Prophecy to Madolche to Harpies to Noble Knights to Hunders. But it’s safe to say from recent tournament results that the most popular decks so far are Fire Fist and Prophecy. I am here to talk to you today about a certain card everyone should start placing in their side deck in 2 copies or even 3 because it is just that powerful, and it has a strong application among the best and most popular decks of the format. That card is none other than[ccProd]Retort[/ccProd].

RetortI’m sure the majority of you are familiar with the counter trap, but just in case you aren’t it says: “When your opponent activates a Spell/Trap Card with the same name as one in your Graveyard: Negate the activation, and if you do, destroy that card. Then, you can add 1 card with that name from your graveyard to your hand.” Right off the bat you can see that this card has a strong application in mirror matches, where you and your opponent both play the same cards and therefore activating Retort is actually all too easy. It was released in Abyss Rising as a Secret Rare and it was definitely overlooked at the time because the best decks following that set were Mermails and Wind-Ups, with Fire Fists only slowly gaining popularity. However, now I personally believe that this card will have a strong impact on the meta today because in examining the top decks of the format, mirror matches will be prevalent and if you want to have an edge in the mirror then playing Retort is definitely a way to go about it.

Imagine playing a Fire Fist mirror. Regardless of what version of the Brotherhood you or your opponent are playing, whether it is 3-axis or 4-axis, or a mash up of both, your strategy is heavily reliant on one card: Fire Formation – Tenki, and that card is now at 3. Another important supporting card is Fire Formation – Tensu, and that is also commonly played at 3, and also in the 3-axis version you have Rekindling. Now I personally believe that Tenki should not have been unlimited, but we must accept that the ban list will never be to our liking and indulge in the way things shape up to be. So Tenki is at 3, but you know what is better than Tenki at 3? Having more Tenkis by taking your opponent’s Tenkis. The common opening play of 3-axis Fire Fists will usually involve activating a Tenki or resolving a copy of Leopard followed by summoning a Fire Fist – Rooster either through Tensu or through resolving the effect of Horse Prince, and swapping your already used copy of Tenki or even Tensu for another copy of Tenki to activate next turn. To even get in the game, your opponent would have to activate either a Tenki or a Tensu, and if you have Retort set, you pretty much just blow them out of the game. They lose their copy of Tenki so it does not even float on the field for use by their monsters if they had drawn them, and you get your own copy of Tenki back and still have one set and ready to go next turn. That is as devastating as a +1 gets and it would most likely give you too much advantage and surmount so much pressure to end the game.

Spellbook Library of the CrescentAssessing the Prophecy mirror you can see that is a matchup which heavily reliant on getting going as soon as possible. Spellbook Library of the Cresent as well as [ccProd]Spellbook of Secrets[/ccProd] are the best way to do this and are easily accessed but [ccProd]Spellbook Magician of Prophecy[/ccProd]. However, Retort shines even stronger in this matchup because of just the sheer number of same cards you and your opponent play. If you have Retort set at any point in the game with any Spellbook in the grave, you are in the position to win the game even if you are behind in advantage to begin with or are lost the die roll and you are going second. The fact that the deck has so many cards that it must play means that there is a ton of different situations where Retort is not only live but game breaking.

The best thing about Retort is that it is not just limited to countering Spell Cards, but it also hits Trap cards, and it is a counter trap at that. In the Fire Fist mirror if you have a bigger Brother and declare an attack on your opponent’s monster and they ask for damage step and you already have your own Tensen or Lance in the grave, you know you’re in a good position to win the battle because Retort can even activate during the Damage Step. In Prophecy decks, a commonly main decked card is [ccProd]Divine Wrath[/ccProd] because it simply cannot be responded to by [ccProd]Spellbook of Wisdom[/ccProd], [ccProd]Infestation Pandemic[/ccProd], MST, or Lance like its cousin F[ccProd]iendish Chain[/ccProd] can be responded to. But just imagine having already Divine Wrathed your opponent’s [ccProd]Spellbook Magician of Prophecy[/ccProd] or [ccProd]Temperance of Prophecy[/ccProd] to lock them out of the game and having them flip their own [ccProd]Divine Wrath[/ccProd] to stop your power play only to be stymied by Retort. It is just devastating and something that cannot be overlooked. Retort also has applications in just hitting common cards that you and your opponent both should have such as [ccProd]Solemn Warning[/ccProd], MST, [ccProd]Bottomless Trap Hole[/ccProd], and more. Its flexibility matches its power.

Mystical RefpanelBut as always there’s a ton more, the mind games that Retort creates are just incredible. Have you ever played a Mirror match and your opponent just either went first, drew their engine and got going before you did, or just drew absurdly well? Well, Retort gives you a shot at coming back and it’s a card that can even psyche your opponent out and cause them to play awkwardly to avoid Retort even if you do not have it set. Remember the Dragon Ruler mirror match from last format? In the middle of the format, [ccProd]Mystical Refpanel[/ccProd] became a popular side deck card and it was even mained in some Dragon Decks as we have seen in the decklists of the ARG Circuit events because everybody knew that Dragon Ruler mirror matches would be prevalent and resolving a Refpanel on a [ccProd]Sacred Sword of Seven Stars[/ccProd] was simply too devastating to pass up. However, the thing about [ccProd]Mystical Refpanel[/ccProd] was that it was mostly limited to hitting [ccProd]Sacred Sword of Seven Stars[/ccProd], or a [ccProd]Cards of Consonance[/ccProd] if your opponent even played it, but that lost popularity in the mainstream Dragon Ruler decks as the format progressed in favor of more trap cards. [ccProd]Mystical Refpanel[/ccProd] could be stopped by [ccProd]Trap Stun[/ccProd] and it just had limited windows of activation. [ccProd]Retort[/ccProd] is the new [ccProd]Mystical Refpanel[/ccProd] that can hit a wide range of cards and it does not lose to any other card but Counter Traps.

And do you know what stops Retort in the mirror match? Having your own[ccProd]Retort[/ccProd]. After you have Retorted your opponent they can try to get themselves back into the game with a Retort of their own so that the advantage is mitigated. While trading [ccProd]Retort[/ccProd] for a [ccProd]Retort[/ccProd] is one of the few ways you can stay in the game after being Retorted, being able to [ccProd]Retort[/ccProd] your opponent’s [ccProd]Retort[/ccProd] will actually seal the deal. This means that the more copies of [ccProd]Retort[/ccProd] your playing the better chance you have of not only winning the [ccProd]Retort[/ccProd] war but ultimately winning the mirror. In conclusion, [ccProd]Retort[/ccProd] is just one of those cards that will add a new level of depth and skill to the game. It is definitely a card that most players should be trying to jam in their side if they are looking for an edge in their mirror match. I know I never want to have that card flipped on me because as soon as it is the game is basically over, but for now I am more than content flipping it on them. Until next time duelists, play hard or go home!

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  • Jeorg Talbert

    lol @ the comments. Yes retort is good in the mirror. Don’t know if it needed an article to tell us that… But hell…. if Jones thinks it’s worth writing about, I’ll read it.

  • davidacomb

    I love it when people put things together like this. It is a treat to see what the best players are thinking. Hopefully we can see more articles from you Mr. Jones.

  • Tim NoneYa

    I have no idea what’s with all the trolling on here. Good article. I picked up a playset of Retort when they first came out because everyone at my locals was playing Evilswarm or Firefist and I did as well. It murders in the mirror match.

  • Rose Aren

    While I can see Retort being popular in the Spellbook mirror (retort their Secrets, hnnng), I’m not sure it’ll be as easy to use in the Fire Fist mirror match. Whole point of the Formations is to be up as long as possible. The good ones, at least. Though denying a Tensen on Damage Step sounds like the most satisfying thing alive.

  • matthewmilad

    I bought 40 Retorts at $1 a piece a couple weeks ago. Thank you for writing the article, I will enjoy my profits.

    • Paul Cooper

      Guess what? Nobody fucking cares.

      • matthewmilad

        Guess what? Fuck you, Paul. You’re a snide, arrogant piece of shit. Go stack and play Empty Jar.

        • Lisandra_brave

          That’s a rather sharp retort there. Tell me, how long did it take to come up with that?

        • dasmilitus

          He’s right, no one cares. Prove me wrong. I’ll play you for 100 dollars on DN.

      • Neo Dasus

        I care. About you. I love you Paul, with all my heart.

  • Arman Dadras

    Probably would of passed up on the pun ehhhh… But awesome article brings a greater perspective to the card and how it can be used in the current meta game love it.

  • Jmex

    FIRE FISTS ALL DAY SON

  • GalacticGod

    At least I’m not the fattest yugituber

  • Adam Corn

    I didn’t mark my Blasters!

  • SmexyVexxy

    I’m the Head Bitch in Charge

    • Neo Dasus

      You’re too weak to be the hbic. Your bitchfu is subpar.

    • Vexxyeon

      NO I’m the Head Bitch in Charge

    • HBIC

      NO I AM

  • LMJEFFJONES

    Seriously, guys? I put the time and effort into writing this article to help you along the path of improvement and instead of thanks or any kind of positive return I get this? Seriously, I’m done.

    • Lisandra_brave

      Imposter! The true Jeff-sama would never give up the path of enlightenment.

    • dasmilitus

      Think I care, scrub? Duel me for any amount up to 300 dollars on DN, username the same.

    • Kevin Silva

      Jeff did you read my message about me not being able to go to Tennessee for our match?

    • Neo Dasus

      I love you Jeff

    • Adolf Hitler

      I smell the salt all the way from Germany.

    • Penny

      Good, fuck off then

  • Neo Dasus

    Amazing article, I have been extremely enlightened! You’re a very handsome person with a brilliant mind and I only hope that one day I could be the player that you are! Thanks! Your fan, Doland. http://vocaroo.com/i/s0N64SW46yph

    • VUtomo

      Shut the fuck up, cuck.

      • Neo Dasus

        Make me

    • Bonbun

      You’re cute :3

  • Peter Cheng

    Future Fusion unban when?

  • Papa Smurf

    F-fuck me Smurfette…

  • Robbie Kohl

    Great post Jeff!

    • Robbie is Fat

      You’re fat

  • Nizar Sarhan

    UNBAN MEEEE

  • VUtomo

    F-fuck me…

  • Alexander Thomas

    No topic on Madolches?

  • LMJeffJones

    Why?

  • dasmilitus

    Bonbun please i’m literally crying right now

    • Bonbun

      Good

      • Neo Dasus

        Stop shitcommenting

  • Amanda LaPalme

    Where are Dragon Rulers?

  • Kripparrian

    Hey guys, Kriparrian here

  • Paul Cooper

    And unban me, too

    • Chris LeBlanc

      No

  • Joe Giorlando

    I’m siding Nobleman of Crossout for the Geargia matchup. Truly unfair.

  • Yatagarasu

    UNBAN MEEEE TOOOOO

  • Chaos End Dragon

    UNBAN MEEEE

    • Lisandra_brave

      Only if you let a pair of dragonflies and a hornet ride in with you.

  • Billy Broke

    Plant format when?

  • Patrick Hoban

    You forgot to mention the synergy Upstart Goblin has with Retort, after all, we all should be following the Upstart Theory.

  • Lisandra_brave

    Tell me Jeff-sama, how do I become enlightened as you?

    I follow the teachings of the greatest of duelists, Sun Tzu, but what else can I do?

  • Kevin Silva

    Jeff i can’t make it to Tennessee, my deck is incomplete

    • Penny

      You’re right Kevin, Jeff is an asshole.

  • Blu_Switch

    >No mention of Gadgets

    • Heavy storm

      Thats because they are a shit

  • Anon-kun

    DNG pls

    • Goat

      You mean Pojo, right? BAAAHHH

  • dasmilitus

    Bonbun if you’re reading this please know I love you and i’m thinking of you

    • Bonbun

      Leave me alone

      • Neo Dasus

        That’s not even me

        • dasmilitus

          Just drop it.

          • Neo Dasus

            Fuck you

        • shimb

          No one likes you.

  • s7s7s7

    And do you know what stops Retort in the mirror match? Having your ownRetort.
    After you have Retorted your opponent tggggggnhey can try to get themselves
    back into the game with a Retort of their own so that the advantage is
    mitigated. Wgngnghile trading Retort for a Retort is one of the few ways you can stay in the game after being Retorted, being able to Retort your opponent’s Retort will actually seal the deal. This means that the more copies of Retort your playing the better chance yongggggggggggu have of not only winning the Retort war but ultimately winning the mirror. In conclusion, Retort is just one of those cards that will add a new level of depth and skill to the game.

  • Krebons

    Krebons.

  • s7s7s7

    And do you know what stops Retort in the mirror match? Having your ownRetort.
    After you have Retorted your opponent they can try to get themselves
    back into the game with a Retort of their own so that the advantage is
    mitigated. While trading Retort for a Retort is one of the few ways you can stahsfghshgrsty in the game after being Retorted, being able to Retort your opponent’s Retort will actually seal the deal. This means that the more copies of Retort your playing the better chance you have of not only winning the Retort war buntysdhrsdthrsth ultimately winning the mirror. In conclusion, Retort is just one of those cards that will add a new level of depth and skill to the game.

  • s7s7s7

    And do you know what stops Retorted in the mirror match? Having your ownRetort.
    After you have Retorted your opponent they can try to get themselves
    back into the game with a Retort of their own so that the advantage is
    mitigated. While trading Retort for a Retort is one of the few ways you can stay in the game after being Retorted, being able to Retort your opponent’s Retort will actually seal the deal. This means that the more copies of Retort your playing the better chance you have of not only winning the Retort war but ultimately winning the mirror. In conclusion, Retort is just one of those cards that will add a new level of depth and skill to the game.

  • s7s7s7

    And do you know what stops Retizzle in the mirror match? Having your ownRetort.
    After you have Retorted your opponent they can try to get themselves
    back into the game with a Retort of their own so that the advantage is
    mitigated. While trading Retort for a Retort is one of the few ways you can stay in the game after being Retorted, being able to Retort your opponent’s Retort will actually seal the deal. This means that the more copies of Retort your playing the better chance you have of not only winning the Retort war but ultimately winning the mirror. In conclusion, Retort is just one of those cards that will add a new level of depth and skill to the game.

  • s7s7s7

    And do you know what stops Retort in the mirror match? Having your ownRetort.
    After you have Retorted your opponent they can try to get themselves
    back into the game with a Retort of their own so that the advantage is
    mitigated. While trading Retort fdsafasdfcadscdczxCfor a Retort is one of the few ways you can stay in the game after being Retorted, being able to Retort your opponent’s Retort will actually seal the deal. This means that the more copies of Retort your playing the better chance you have of not only winning the Retort war but ultimately winning the mirror. In conclusion, Retort is just one of those cards that will add a new level of depth and skill to the game.

  • s7s7s7

    And do you know whatghfh stops Retort in the mirror match? Having your ownRetort.
    After you have Retorted your opponent they can try to get themselves
    back into the game with a Retort of their own so that the advantage is
    mitigated. While trading Retort for a Retort is one of the few ways you can stay in the game after being Retorted, being able to Retort your opponent’s Retort will actually seal the deal. This means that the more copies of Retort your playing the better chance you have of not only winning the Retort war but ultimately winning the mirror. In conclusion, Retort is just one of those cards that will add a new level of depth and skill to the game.

  • s7s7s7

    And do you know what stops Retort in the mirror match? Having your ownRetort.
    After you have Retorted your opponent they can try to get themselves
    back into the game with a Retort of their own so that the advantage is
    mitigated. While trading Retort for a Retort is one of the few ways you can stay in the game after being Retorted, being able to Retort your opponent’s Retort will actually seal the deal. This means that the more copies of Retort your playing the better chance you have of not only winning the Retort war but ultimately winning the mirror. In conclusion, Retort is just one of those cards that will add a new level of depth and skill to the game.

  • dasmilitus

    bujingi XD

  • Goat

    This is such a baaaahhhd article.

    • shimb

      Go away Joe Giorlando

      • Goat

        No, you degenerate.

  • MeteorD

    “And do you know what stops Retort in the mirror match? Having your own Retort”

  • TheTrains

    It’s relevant in the book mirror but it’s hardly relevant in Fire Fists. Jmex is entirely correct.

    • Jmex

      I mean, it does have an impact
      Back when it was mermail vs fire fist meta some guy did this and I lost instantly but that’s at a point where the tenki was the only card I had, it was my try for a comeback and it failed so of course it mattered but every other time you aren’t losing it’s better to get rid of the backrow or stop the setting effect altogether

      • TheTrains

        Of course it matters, any time you’re negating your opponent while +1’ing is going to have an impact on the gamestate. Dealing with the problem is a lot easier than dealing with the end result, espcially when it’s not going to always be live until mid-to-late game. In books it will almost always be live from turn 1.

    • lorem3k

      It’s also relevant in the Blasting the Ruins mirror.

      • shimb

        rekt

      • TheTrains

        Truly the skilliest mirror

  • Jmex

    Most of the fire fist mirror is a backrow fight, it’d be better to just side more backrow hate rather than retort.
    What good does it do negating a tenki and getting your own when you can’t get through the backrow now
    The tenki grab is amazing but it’s better to have a choice to let it go, kill the backrow with a dust tornado and next turn go for the kill now that there is no threatening backrow

  • shimb

    Dragon Rulers are still the strongest deck.

    • TheTrains

      Kill yourself

      • BrocktheRock

        Don’t tell him what to do.

        • TheTrains

          Don’t tell me to not tell him what to do.

          • BrocktheRock

            Don’t talk to me, scrub. You lose to Blasting the Ruins.

          • TheTrains

            Rude.

          • Jmex

            Awww snap son
            Rekt

    • Sun Tzu

      Calm thyself child, and cleanse thy sins with the utopia of a rekindling drawn from an upstart. If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. You need know longer surrender yourself to the corruption that is blaster ;).

      • TheTrains

        REKINDLING
        STILL
        AT
        3

        • Sun Tzu

          Amen.

    • shimb

      Thanks for posting for me shimb

      • shimb

        Who the FUCK are YOU?

        • shimb

          trip ON Vet

          • shimb

            Trip ON this DICK.

  • LSAlphaBetaYGO

    I feel retorted just trying to read that last paragraph

  • Sun Tzu

    Truly an enlightened choice; I expected no less from my young shepherd.

    • Adolf Hitler

      Back from the dead to play a card game?

      • Sun Tzu

        All warfare is based on deception.